tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post8129048626772080206..comments2023-03-24T21:54:35.404+08:00Comments on Dreaming of Pandora Forest - LANGKAWI NATURE BLOG, CONSERVATION ISSUES AND MORE: Temurun Waterfall Now Is DAMMED!Dreamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08797658135561940402noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-4669378724500277252010-05-13T17:18:27.903+08:002010-05-13T17:18:27.903+08:00Hi Marc;
Thank you for taking time to put in your ...Hi Marc;<br />Thank you for taking time to put in your comments. <br /><br />Concerning the rubbish, it is all about attitude. I don't really understand is if people can bring food and goodies in; why can't they take out their own rubbish (which is very much lighter after they had eaten)?<br /><br />Who can we really blame in the end??<br /><br />Anyway, i checked out your website. Good luck on your yoga school.Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797658135561940402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-58762138730558883272010-04-22T20:05:38.420+08:002010-04-22T20:05:38.420+08:00ps The inscription on the pink granite stone alway...ps The inscription on the pink granite stone always confounds me. If people are reading it they are already at Temerun, so they know exactly where it is located.marchttp://www.yoganowmalaysia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-68434505670363162162010-04-22T20:02:35.827+08:002010-04-22T20:02:35.827+08:00I hadn't been to Temerun in a couple of weeks ...I hadn't been to Temerun in a couple of weeks and went there two days ago. I was stunned by what I saw. The whole work was done surprising quickly and the new path is an improvement, especially the new hand rails and steps at the steeper part, which was starting to become quite dangerous. (A few of the steps slid down hill during the big rains last year. <br /><br />The dams are, in my opinion, pointless. Since it had rained there was quite a bit of water flowing in the stream, but it wasn't filling up the dam, it was actually flowing under the dam wall. <br /><br />Whether this is by accident or design at least it will cut down on the water stagnation issue. Whether the dams will ever fill is another question.<br /><br />Apparently the pool at the top has a natural spring and even when the waterfall doesn't flow the water still runs (even if it's just a trickle). There were quite a few fish and tadpoles. The new yellow changing room (what an eyesore) was locked, just in case somebody might actually want to use it.<br /><br />Given the budget that was spent I was disappointed to see that one of the most important issues at Temerun waterfall hadn't been addressed - the rubbish. The contractors left plenty behind (I hauled down as much as I could carry) but it's the plastic bags, bottles, cigarette butts, babies nappies and such that really spoil this beautiful location. <br /><br />There are rubbish bins and some people actually use them (though locals still seem to prefer to fill water bottles with sand and sink them to the bottom of the pool) but the monkeys open them and take out what they can eat. This is not a monkey problem - this is a human problem. Is it really so hard to design a monkey-proof rubbish bin? I think it would be an excellent school project for the local kids to work on - let them be part of the solution than being part of the problem (they're just copying their elders when they throw their picnic bags on the ground). <br /><br />The monkeys at Temerun have become particularly aggressive (especially the alpha male), but is this surprising when people throw stones at them all the time? If somebody came into my home and started throwing stones at me I think I might get a bit upset too. <br /><br />In the end nature will out - look at the attempt to dam the pool at Durian Perangin waterfall - a tree fell on it and smashed it.<br /><br />Keep up the blog and sorry for such a lengthy commentmarchttp://www.yoganowmalaysia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-71782247882962085752010-04-22T13:08:41.468+08:002010-04-22T13:08:41.468+08:00One of the reason why my wife and I gave up talkin...One of the reason why my wife and I gave up talking about things like this. 28 years ago we used to enjoy Tasik Cini, then? When we were in the wilds in Gua Musang for 15 years, many places just like this were 'destroyed'!<br />Many place where rare orchids are thriving,were gone in the name of development. Development? what development? <br />The funny thing is that we see many 'fat-cats' nowadays.<br />Cheers and regards<br />Donald G.H Tan<br />Birds Talking TooBirds Talking Toohttp://www.birdstalkingtoo.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-64148382299399485212010-04-19T15:07:26.431+08:002010-04-19T15:07:26.431+08:00Sad state of affairs, and I think Local council el...Sad state of affairs, and I think Local council elections is the answer.. because it makes them directly responsible to us, and make it a habit to inform the people whatever project they hope to undertake, and seek views advice from the professionals in the community... <br /><br />Hopefully, These things would be a thing of the past soon when and if council elections do take off in the future... sigh<br /><br />Wchinner, sorry to spam here, but here's an animal I hope to identify, and also there's a link to a review on the Lok Kawi zoo, Sabah.. whc is heartfelt and really represents the condition of all zoos in Malaysia. <br /><br />http://resonating-ripple.blogspot.com/2010/04/any-idea-what-animal-this-is.htmlRaoulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03607663689854483454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-78957902910025531222010-04-19T11:46:08.410+08:002010-04-19T11:46:08.410+08:00The 21st Century Developed Countries seek to get t...The 21st Century Developed Countries seek to get the best out of sustainable living and their cities integrated into the natural environment at best as it could. Commercial crops, if planted, must be adequately placed with networks of forest or natural corridors to facilitate wildlife interactions between allocated natural forested lands.<br /><br />Development does not mean flattening down entire forests and replacing them with man-made infrastructures nor does it mean clearing large swaths of natural habitats and replacing them with commercial crops. These are 20th Century thinking and is no longer an acceptable option for developed countries as well as developing ones. Blanket-Clearing hundreds of kilometres of natural forests and smothering the remaining coral reefs and mangroves and building unsustainable man-made structures into a naturally functioning ecology all in the name of development isn't really going to bring Malaysia (as well as any other places) a good name!<br /><br />I hope the public especially the schooling generation will be aware of this given that there are plenty of misguided information in local textbooks and news articles nowadays.<br /><br />As to paraphrase a famous quote by Mahatma Gandhi: "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress, can be judged by the ways its animals (plants and the ecosystem) are treated."JKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13915767910311597056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-39495632850705771382010-04-17T21:35:55.970+08:002010-04-17T21:35:55.970+08:00Hi all;
Yes... this kind of silly projects are old...Hi all;<br />Yes... this kind of silly projects are old stories.. They will never ever learn. They seem to misunderstand the meaning of "developed" country. <br /><br />Until these people killed the last fish, drained out the last water source, chopped down the last tree and finally realise that money cannot be eaten.Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797658135561940402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-3066428196831134552010-04-16T11:19:07.355+08:002010-04-16T11:19:07.355+08:00Heartbreaking. My favourite Langkawi waterfall too...Heartbreaking. My favourite Langkawi waterfall too.Patrick Lowhttp://www.langkawi-emagazine.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-28310265904569656782010-04-16T00:47:49.492+08:002010-04-16T00:47:49.492+08:00The fact is whenever a project is budget allocated...The fact is whenever a project is budget allocated, somebody's pocket got money, who cares about the environment?!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-59850854909714490242010-04-14T23:07:33.961+08:002010-04-14T23:07:33.961+08:00O yes, these damming projects is not new. It happe...O yes, these damming projects is not new. It happened donkey years ago to old favorites like Kota Tinggi Waterfall. Bathing and picnicking activities... and inevitably, trashes accumulate in these man-made pools too. I still remember my dismay at seeing Coca Cola cans and bottles all a-simmering in the pools and people still go a-dipping. I never forgot the scene. I hope things have improved.Joseph Laihttp://www.eart-h.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-9468918986671433762010-04-14T20:48:26.382+08:002010-04-14T20:48:26.382+08:00trouble is malaysia got lots of money to spend and...trouble is malaysia got lots of money to spend and any "reasonable" project is an excuse to spend. sometimes its just best not to tell government of new discoveries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-22758847705124094832010-04-14T15:55:13.576+08:002010-04-14T15:55:13.576+08:00These people will never learn! And they think so ...These people will never learn! And they think so highly of themselves to come up with such ideas but we have seen the algae bloom in the other stream on the other side of this mountain. That's what Temurun will look like the next dry season... green stagnant ponds!Mandyhttp://mandysmlee.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3382539233184523416.post-5689834636767798652010-04-14T15:21:12.909+08:002010-04-14T15:21:12.909+08:00This is not the first one or the first time.
Needl...This is not the first one or the first time.<br />Needless to say more. There is nothing we can do about it.<br />There are so many smart ass with so many brilliant ideals.<br />We are used to it now. ( being a fool )<br />hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com